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Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:27 pm
by leadbiscuit
A great many 22 cal bullets exist that exceed the listed BC of the 55 grain Berger 20cal. There are also a great many 22 wildcats that will push them right along. Are they necessary? No. But they are a really big can of whoop-ass, and that's why I use them.

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:45 pm
by Coyotehunter
There is no (honest) disagreement that a rifle that shoots bullet weights from 32-40 grains with BCs exceeding .20 at rates of 3900-4200fps isn't more than needed to snuff a coyote under 500 yards with authority
So am I correct in assuming that you have shot a number of coyotes in that 400-500 yard range with the .204 to make that statement.

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:53 am
by bucksnbears
i was thinking about a 20 cal of some disign and still may do it.i sure wish sierra bullets would come out with something in a gameking soft point in about 45 grain. that should be a great coyote bullet

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:11 pm
by yellowdog
[quote="Coyotehunter"]I have a custom .204 and .22-.250 AI.............I love both guns. I would not hesitate a 500 yard shot at a coyote with the .250 but would not consider it a option with the .204.

Well...after seeing this shot at 502 yards in the wind, this video might change some opinions for anybody that has doubts to the .204's long range dog hunting capabilities. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:13 am
by Tim Anderson
Well...after seeing this shot at 502 yards in the wind, this video might change some opinions for anybody that has doubts to the .204's long range dog hunting capabilities. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE
Well if thats the case then my 20x47 Lapua should be good out to 800 yds.. :D

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:02 am
by Coyotehunter
yellowdog wrote:
Coyotehunter wrote:I have a custom .204 and .22-.250 AI.............I love both guns. I would not hesitate a 500 yard shot at a coyote with the .250 but would not consider it a option with the .204.

Well...after seeing this shot at 502 yards in the wind, this video might change some opinions for anybody that has doubts to the .204's long range dog hunting capabilities. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

Maybe..........you probably can kill a moutain lion with a knife but that does not mean it is a great option. LOL

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:35 pm
by bucksnbears
Tim Anderson wrote:
Well...after seeing this shot at 502 yards in the wind, this video might change some opinions for anybody that has doubts to the .204's long range dog hunting capabilities. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE
Well if thats the case then my 20x47 Lapua should be good out to 800 yds.. :D
do tell Tim, how many hundreds have you slain with said gun :wink:

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:21 pm
by Optimax90
I have been toying aroung the Idea of a .204 for a fur gun under 250yds but don't know crap about them.... Guess there is a major difference in opion on them :lol: :lol: I sure do like that 700 pilgrim is selling if he still is getting rid of it. If I wasn't planning a spring black bear hunt that thing would be mine!

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:29 pm
by Tim Anderson
Tim Anderson wrote:
Well...after seeing this shot at 502 yards in the wind, this video might change some opinions for anybody that has doubts to the .204's long range dog hunting capabilities. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

Well if thats the case then my 20x47 Lapua should be good out to 800 yds..
do tell Tim, how many hundreds have you slain with said gun
The 20x47 L is still a virgin, but will get its turn if I can just put my 17 Pred down.. :wink:
Killing time is a comeing boys and girls... :mrgreen:

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:28 pm
by Tactical.20
Bnbears, you could look into the Tactical.20. It is a .223 shortened a hair and necked down to the .204. I have used this rifle 8 yrs or so now, will do another T.20 in xbolt when I start making money again, this one is a Medallian a-bolt, Browning, just love the short bolt throw and detatchable magazine. I like the Berger 35gr and 40 gr, but prefer the Nosler 40gr for coyotes, real decent fur rifle.

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:57 pm
by Pilgrim
Opti

If 204, think hard on a CZ527. Nothing like it for shooting long distances.
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Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:07 pm
by Optimax90
Pilgrim,

I'm a remington/ruger guy and have a tough time straying ( loyol dog I guess you would say, to a fault!!!!) but after the info you posted i'm almost convinced :)

Still got the rem 700 for sale??? :lol: :lol:

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:30 pm
by barebackjack
Coyotehunter wrote:
There is no (honest) disagreement that a rifle that shoots bullet weights from 32-40 grains with BCs exceeding .20 at rates of 3900-4200fps isn't more than needed to snuff a coyote under 500 yards with authority
So am I correct in assuming that you have shot a number of coyotes in that 400-500 yard range with the .204 to make that statement.

Beat me to it.

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:13 am
by Prairie Ghost
+1 on the CZ 527 that is what my 204 is and i love it.

Re: .204 or .22-250 for coyotes

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:08 pm
by Pilgrim
Bareback

If you read between the lines, CH is posturing - Must've breached his standard for modesty and he's hoping for some sort of appeal to his authority.


Moving along...

Your responses seem to imply that you know the maximum effective ranges of just about everything so this should be easy for you to answer:

In dead coyote terms, please list the MERs for .17REM, .204, & .22-250 and summarize the objective standard you're working from. Thanks in advance.


To Opti: I still have the 700. I'm all about seven zero zero too, but...