Misting

All you new guys who are just getting into coyote hunting, put your posts in this area. Lots of good information that would be helpful before putting up a post asking for the "how to" manual on calling.
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I was just going through and deleting some old files on my computer and found this post I put up somewhere on "MISTING". I just read another article about misting and have heard that a Higgins from Arizona is doing seminars on the subject. I will post a copy of my comments so you know my feelings on the subject but would like to see if anyone on this site has tried it and what they have seen for results. I have tried about everything when it comes to calling coyotes but once I decide that it does not consistantly give me an advantage I will drop it. So before you read my post keep in mind that I have tried; cover sprays, carbon suits, and a L.D.C. on stand to try and keep a downwind coyote around longer.

Oct, 2006

Craig O'Gorman is 57 I believe and Vern Dorn was the guy who called and killed 400 coyotes when he was 74, smoking like my 79? ford truck the whole time. I believe the only difference between recreational calling and someone who is doing it for a living is the effiency in which they go about doing their job. A professional does not have time to do something extra (like misting pee in the air) unless is will put more fur on the stretcher. If it worked they would already be doing it. I have not met a single Predator control, ADC, Wildlife Specialist, etc. that uses a lure or cover scent on stand for calling. I am not talking about aerial gunning or poison (poison drop baits have been banned for the past 30+ years) and the trapping reference was only used as it concerns scent at locations as it relates to calling. I think to many hunters get caught up in thinking that if they use the secret sound or the newest call, camo, scents, etc. they will be really putting up the numbers. Unfortunately you just can't sell or market "location" to the Gander Mtn. customers and it does not get talked about enough. How about Bill Austin? Arguably one of the best known coyote callers of all time wore a big white cowboy hat on most every stand, with little to no camouflage. ADC or predator hunter? I do not believe he would understand the difference any more than I do. I would agree that hunting conditions in Arizona and Texas due to terrain are different than the northwestern states. I have hunted both states several times in the past couple of years and have found the sheer numbers of coyotes in the western part of Texas to be nothing short of amazing. I can see why you would drop Gerry and Murray?s names but I do not understand how they come into the conversation. Do they mist urine on stand? I have read Gerry?s book and I do not remember him mentioning using lures and/or cover up scent at location for calling. He may have, I just do not remember. I am just trying to point out that if I have a coyote going down wind I do not have time to start misting scent. I am to busy trying to stop the errant dog long enough for my partner, on the down wind side, who is ready to take the shot. And hopefully I have chosen my set up in a location correctly so that we have the advantage. If I thought I could mask/cover my scent or if I thought I could confuse a coyote and make him unsure of what his nose is telling him I would bath in pee at every stand. I just think as long as I am breathing, farting, sweating and climbing in and out of a truck all day, that I have no chance at beating a coyote?s nose in his back yard. Just one man?s opinion. Spray it if you got it, if it gives you confidence. You just will not catch me caring around the Tom Miranda indorsed scent bombs anytime in the near future.
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I agree with you I do not think you can trick a coyotes nose. They need to be shot before going downwind. I have seen Higgins video with the misting. I am no where near a professional like yourself, but even as a caller like myself I don't have time to do any misting or coverscent stuff. I would rather work my butt off all day and get in 16 stands then take the time to change into "scent proof" clothes at each stand and spray down, etc, etc, and get in 5 stands because of th e time wasted. Even if I did do that I think a coyote will still be able to smell you.

P.S. However it is interesting in HIggins video to see how the coyotes react to misting. Makes you understand them better.
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I would think the reaction is no different than when a coyote gets downwind of a trappers set, carcass draw station,.............When I started coyote hunting having a coyote go down wind was something that happened more often than I would like to admit. It just seems as though it just does not happen very often anymore. Or I should say it still happens but does not seem to have such an impact on the outcome. I assume that is where they are going when I choose the set up. I called in a pair a couple of days ago in the pine trees and they got down wind and I never got a shot. I had little to no wind and knew that it could get pretty hairy before I even started. I just went for it and it didn't go my way. I struck out afterwards to see where they had come from and and how far they got before it went wrong. I could see it all in the snow. I never had seen the first one, just the male. Had I not gone out to read the sign I would not known she was even there. I shot a female off of him about a week prior. I was surprised this time of year he had picked up another female so quick. I am trying to get him trapped at the very least and I did get to see where he was spending his mornings. So there is a situation where he got down wind but I just did not have a shot. I did not know what had happened until I had spent the better part of an hour following his tracks. I guess what I am trying to say is that when I have a animal go down wind there is just nothing I am going to do about it. I chose a bad location to kill that coyote. If I chose a good location that coyote would have died prior to him getting down wind.
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Every stand I make I just assume the coyote is going to go downwind. If I am by myself I will have the rifle facing down wind and try to situate myself so I can see as much as I can downwind. If I have a partner we usually put the guy not calling downwind.
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Good topic Jamie!! I dont think that it works. All the coyotes that i have seen come in 99 percent of the time work there way down wind some way to smell what they are coming too. The only cooyte i saw that did not come down wind was because there was a road down wind with a lot of traffic and he wanted nothing to do with that road. Levi and i seem to have a pretty good setup when we hunt together. Almost every coyote we shoot is shot by the downwind guy.
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Well put get the coyote killed before he gets downwind if you hunting heavy brush put a partner down wind to catch the coyote if you by yourself put the e caller up wind and sit and wait in the brush.
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