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barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:18 pm
by bucksnbears
anybody out there using these. i've loaded about 200 rounds of them and am not real happy with the results on coyotes. poor penatration. shooting a 250 at about 4200 fps. they do work well on fox but am having trouble with yotes. getting superb accuracy though, this is with a 1-12 twist. they dont shoot real well out of my .222 with a 1-14. anybody using these and having luck???????

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:49 pm
by xdeano
I too had some issues with them in the 243, they make to big of a splash with very poor penetration. Just not the results I wanted. So you're not the only one.

xdeano

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:30 am
by Tbush
Aren't they made for varmints p.dogs,ground hogs etc...to make them go splat :shock:

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:14 am
by bucksnbears
say's in their literature there good for coyote but i won't be using them anymore. to bad cuz they ere super accurate.i have shot a few jacks with them and work very well on them. usually no exit hole.

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:31 pm
by wizbang
Has anyone tried slowing them down at all?? Results?

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:23 pm
by lyonch
Tbush wrote:Aren't they made for varmints p.dogs,ground hogs etc...to make them go splat :shock:
Tbush you hit it right on the head. Im sure they do wonders on p-dogs but as far as a coyotes goes you can't bielieve everything they say. They are marketing the coyote hunters to sell more product. It's nothing but a sales pitch in my opinion and would never use them on a coyote. Not a coyote bullet for this guy!!

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:40 pm
by Pilgrim
Wiz,

The bullets have a greater than normal bearing surface so slowing down equates to poor stability/ tumbling. Gotta speed them up to keep them spinning.

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:17 pm
by wizbang
Oh. Marketing then...

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:46 am
by DustyC
I have had decent luck with them in my 22-250 but they just won't knock anything down in my .223. They do shoot all over the place in my .223 also. Is this due to the slower speed? I am saving all of them in my 22-250 for prarie dog hunting this summer. What is a few favorite bullets for the 22-250 you guy's shoot?

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:49 pm
by lyonch
DustyC wrote:I have had decent luck with them in my 22-250 but they just won't knock anything down in my .223. They do shoot all over the place in my .223 also. Is this due to the slower speed? I am saving all of them in my 22-250 for prarie dog hunting this summer. What is a few favorite bullets for the 22-250 you guy's shoot?
i got this load from a very respectible individual and it shoots awesome out of my .22-250. Its a sierra 52 grain HPBT that is pushed by 41.5 grains of H-380 at a velocity average of 3,850 fps.

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:13 pm
by DustyC
Is that load pretty easy on the fur?

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:12 pm
by lyonch
I just started using that load this year. I have not had an opportunity to check it on many coyotes this year. On paper its great and the few i did get with it were dead right there. I had one runner on me this year and i ended up loosing it, but was my fault due to very poor shot placement. I know two individuals who have shot this load in the past when they shot a .22-250 and said this load is a definitely a fur load. Once i get a chance to test it on a few more dogs then i will give a better answer. Oh and i hate sewing and haven't had to sew any of the dogs i shot with it.

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:44 am
by DustyC
Thanks for the info. I'll try a few out.

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:42 am
by bucksnbears
what kind of primers with this load. make/magnum or standard????

Re: barnes varmit grenades??????????

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:51 am
by lyonch
I dont know what type of primers i used. I know they are CCI and there a standard large rifle primer. I think its a 200 model if that means anything. I just bought a big box of a 1,000 and dont plan on changing anytime soon.