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Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:00 am
by Coyotehunter
the after market assembly has a quicker lock time. I have never changed any of mine over the years but it is a cheap easy upgrade. good info
Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:30 am
by Tim Anderson
I use the speed lock systems in 3 of my coyote rifles. With a faster lock time the bullet hits closer to where the shooter is aiming. I also check the fireing pin travel on my other rifles with some machinest blueing and if i have a pin thats touching i use sand paper or dremel tool and remove the high spot on the fireing pin. If the pin is way out of alignment then i will replace it and the schroud.. Dureing the winter months i also remove any oil from the fireing pin area. I will apply a synthetic all-weather high tech grease to the bolt lugs ( backside and bottom of lug) also in and around the schroud.
Here is a pic showing a high spot on the fireing pin. ( the shinney spot)
This is the key area to check for misalignment or high spot on the fireing pin.

Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:19 pm
by Nodak72
what actually causes misalignment or high spot on A firing pin? Just normal use and wear?
Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:21 pm
by Nodak72
by the way ,Tim thanks for the picts!
Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:15 pm
by Coyotehunter
good post TA
Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 5:19 pm
by Tim Anderson
There are a few things that can cause misalignment of the fireing pin. The fireing pin hole may have been drilled off center just a wee bit. The threads for the bolt schroud couldbe a little on the loose side or worn or the end of the bolt where the schroud screws in may have been off center as well.
The fireing pin maybe off as well when they spun it on the lath..
Even if the fireing pin touches the inside of the bolt the gun is still useable but the lock time canbe slowed up and when this happens it can affect youre groups.
A good example is the Rem.'s that came out with the J-Lock. There was a whole lot of slideing and binding with that set up... I bought a Rem. chambered in 221 F.B. and one in 17 Rem.. Both came with a J-Lock and did'nt shoot very consistant so i had them changed over to the old style schroud and fireing pin and it made a world of difference.. I also did some talking with my gunsmith on the subject and he showed me what i showed you guys in the other post about checking for drag on the fireing pin and he was nice enough to give me a bottle of machinest blue... When it comes to guns i maybe a little too fussy but i like to know that if i call a coyote or fox in and i should happen to miss it, i want to be sure its my fault and not the guns.
This reminds me of a guy that hunts in my crew. I talked him into buying a 17 Rem. for hunting so i don't have to spend so much time sewing up hides.. As the season went with his new 17 cal. he ended up missing a few. He blamed it on the powder being to sensitive to the temps or he was useing the wroung bullets and so on.. He ended up tradeing the 17 rem. in on a Sako action for a custom build and i just so happen saw it in the rack at the local gun dealers so i bought it.. A hunter can never have too many 17's..LOL I grabbed one of my standbye powders that usually works in most 17 Rem.s and loaded up some loads for the rifle and took it shooting.. The rifle turned out tobe a real shooter with the first load and the only change i made was going to a 30 gr. bullet instead of the 25 gr., but both work well in it..
The following season i had a pair of coyotes comeing in my direction that where about 3-400 yards apart but comeing towards me.. I ended up getting both and as i was retrieveing the coyotes my buddy drives up and says i see you got them both.. I said yep.. He asked what gun was i useing and i said it was a new to me 17 Rem. i just bought last spring... I got it out of the truck and showed it to him and he noticed the little rust spot on the barrel where he got some blood on it when he owned it...LOL

Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:47 pm
by Nodak72
T.A., thanks for the well detailed explanation,I may have to look into an after market assembly! Funny story about the 17REM

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Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:41 pm
by Tim Anderson
Do you have a rifle with the J-Lock or regular shroud?
Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 4:01 am
by Nodak72
this rifle was purchased supposedly in the early to mid 70's! I am not sure if it is A J-lock or A regular shroud! how can you tell?
Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:11 am
by Coyotehunter
you will have a key for the lock. if the gun is that old you will not have the J-lock
Re: trigger pull
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:17 am
by Tim Anderson
Like Coyotehunter said its to old to have a J-Lock...
Before you decide to change the fireing pin you should check to see if its touching anywhere inside the bolt. Just remove the fireing pin from bolt and wipe the oil off of fireing pin. Take a black magic marker and paint the fireing pin, let dry then install back inside the bolt and dry fire a couple of times.. Then remove it and see if you have any shinny spots where the pin is touching.. Sand down the shinny spot with emmerycloth and touch up with magic marker and repeat steps above..