Electronic call V.S. mouth calls

[shooter93]

i have bought a electronic call, used it twice thought it was the deal, never liked them but i will try it on bobcat at night though, i am use to a open reed mouth call i can do what i want in the time of need and i have my own sound, alot of electronics are tinny sounding and you cant change up to what you need, i have found a new killer style that hase been working good for me. i go to 3 series with the rabbit or fawn and my next is the howls and right back with the rabbit, almost always if a male dog is there he respondes with the need to steel the meal for the younger dog. seems to work why stop.

[tcsniper]

shooter93
Just did the same thing myself. Find myself leaving the e-caller on the bench. Glad you're getting results. I'm not seeing a thing. Don't believe I'm doing that much wrong-there's just not a good population of yotes in this part of Iowa. One day they're barking on my driveway, the next ,they're non-existant for months. What part of the country are you in?

[lyonch]

Both calls are very effective and have there time and place for each one. After a couple hours of hunting and reading the coyotes and how they are reacting may determine wether or not to stay with the mouth calls or if you need to go to the electronic caller.

[shooter93]

im from ne cali on the oregon neveda boarder, i have learn one thing though where your hear coyote at night isnt where they are in the day, there is ranch lands with alot of rim rocks around them, most my dogs are on the top of the rims in the day and low in the early moring or at night, ok on the calls, the mouth call is hard for some people to pick up, but it give me the options carring a box around dont, i enjoy the satisfaction of knowing i did it myself and i enjoy working the dogs in close

[LeviM]

both! They both have their time and place

[Tim Anderson]

Hand calls or electric callers.. It depends on what each persons goal is. If you enjoy the satisfaction of hand calling then more power to you.
For me its the number of hides i can put up on the stretchers and the satisfaction of calling them in with either tool. Some coyotes may require a little more convinceing to come in and i feel i can do a better job of it with the electric caller plus at the end of a good day i'm not tripping over my bottom lip..LOL

[shooter93]

tim why would your lip fall out, lol , you actually skin them they stink to lol

[Tim Anderson]

LOL.. Yes i skin them too. It helps pay for a few bullets or some gas.. I hate to waste a resource...

[barebackjack]

Got a foxpro that hasnt seen the light of day in over 2 years. Mouth calls are more versatile, you can change tones/sounds/volume at the "flip of a lip".

Electronics have educated ALOT of dogs! Repetitious sounds, poor sounds, abuse (like letting it run non-stop for 20 straight minutes) etc etc etc etc. I think the biggest and most common mistake e-call rookies make, is having the volume to loud.

[Tim Anderson]

Electronics have educated ALOT of dogs! Repetitious sounds, poor sounds, abuse (like letting it run non-stop for 20 straight minutes) etc etc etc etc.

I have to disagree on that statement. I used to call part time with hand calls and when i got my first electric caller i would call almost continues with a good rabbit sound.. Then i hunted with some exsperianced callers from down south and they told me i should'nt do that.. I was'nt getting as many coyotes to come in and if any did they came real late.. On a suggeston from a friend he recomended i call continues, i told him what i was told by others and he said try it. It will make youre stands more productive and the coyotes will come sooner.. Will i went back to my old way like my friend suggested and i was back in the game..
The reason for continues calling is the coyote thinks or knows the rabbit is still there screaming so he is comeing in for his free meal or see whats makeing it scream. If you stop calling or don't call continues then the coyote can loose interest and just walk away or come in after you left....Get them comeing and keep them comeing, if you bring the close one in quick enough then there is a chance you can get a crack at one comeing in farther away..
Poor sounds i will agree with you there.. Thats why i now use a WT..
I have been hearing good reports on the fox-pro that has the new sounds from Cal Taylor. They are getting there..LOL

[Coyotehunter]

Got a foxpro that hasnt seen the light of day in over 2 years. Mouth calls are more versatile, you can change tones/sounds/volume at the "flip of a lip".

Electronics have educated ALOT of dogs! Repetitious sounds, poor sounds, abuse (like letting it run non-stop for 20 straight minutes) etc etc etc etc. I think the biggest and most common mistake e-call rookies make, is having the volume to loud.

Sorry man but I do not agree with that statement either. How long the call runs for and the volume, has nothing to do with educated coyotes. Missing coyotes, being seen walking in on stand, winded, poor set up location, pressure..............these all have something to do with spooky coyotes. I have never heard or seen a volume knob on a dieing animal. They scream as loud as they can for as long has is takes to die. If a antelope is caught in a fence, he is loud and will bawl for hours. No coyote is run off by this.

[LeviM]

I agree alot of people have educated coyotes, but if you know what your doing with your electronic caller you can any educated coyotes to come in for a look. Curiosity will kill the cat! I am 50/50 on hand calls vs electronic calls, they both DO have their place and in the right situations they will both kill coyotes

[shooter93]

i can blow the mouth call for 20 min straight, but my lip would fall off, i use the mouth call with 3 mins. between. my success went up on the older dogs when i started using a bark and a howl about 15 min into my stand, but i always go directly back to the rabbit and they usual are on a run to steal the rabbit from the smaller dog. but i dont use aggressive male howl. dont think you can do that with the electric call and get the old dogs to come in that has been burned before, but i think using the elecronic with the mouth howler would do the same

[lyonch]

As levi mentioned they both have there place and time!!

[shooter93]

i think the biggest mistake of any caller isnt always the sound, but is being seen before you see them, and probably the biggest mistake is putting the call to close with a continuious call, Tim maybe a rabbit hat on your lip would get them closer, lol