Why use the heavier/larger shot sizes ?

[lyonch]

Personally i would never use steel shot on a coyote!!!! I would either look at moving to some #4 buckshot or some #2 heavy shot for a shotgun load for coyotes(if you dont like the price of Dead Coyote). I think you will be more satisified with being able to have more distance than the load you are specifing. I think i would use #4 tukey loads before i even think about using a steel load for coyotes. I feel that the density of steel isn't the proper weight to size ratio that i would use. Just my opinion though after shooting and patterning on 3/4" plywood.

[xdeano]

Just to put some light on the subject of BB from the manufactures end. I spoke with both Winchester and Federal Ammo, both companies I spoke directly to the product manager and they said that they would have to make a pile of it for them to make any kind of profit off of it. They get their lead shipped over from Korea, from there they have to retool their machines to make a run. The one guy was pretty adamant that they were not going to make that round any longer because they made a pile of it and had to sit on it for a long time because no one was buying it. He said that will never happen again.

I did not talk with Remington at all, but i'm sure they'll say the same thing at the other two. I have heard that Remington 4buck hits a bit harder than winchester and way better than federals. I don't know why that is because they all have the same speed and number of pellets.

So If you have the BB you're lucky because that's the last of it. If you're looking for it, good luck.

Next best thing is 4 buck. It's a proven coyote load, so why buy the expensive stuff. I would prefer the BB, but that's just me.

xdeano

[Roane Ranger]

Looks like it's going to be a DIY project for those who want to load it themselves.

According to the chart I have- BB is 0.18" dia. (50 per oz. lead), T is 0.20" dia. (53 per oz. steel), and #4 Buck is 0.24" dia. (27, 34, 41 per typical load) I guess that means a 2 3/4, 3 and 3 1/2 load in 12 ga.- it doesn't say.

The #4 Buck would make better sense- 18 caliber vs. 24 caliber.
Not as many but in the larger load ALMOST as many.

2 shot is 0.15" dia. with 87 per oz. lead- if I go bigger than what I have now, then BIG turkey loads it will be!

There is a gun show this weekend near me- I am going to see if anybody has BB loads out of curosity, or knows a guy that knows a guy that is hording them!

[Prairie Ghost]

When looking at the price of the shells a guy really needs to see how many shells you're shooting. If your shoot one box of 25 a year it shouldn't be anything your budget can't handle and i have heard real good things about that stuff.

When i carried a 10 guage i shot steel T shot and had fair results.

I have shot a good many coyotes with 2 3/4 in and 3 inch 4 buck and it reall knocks them hard. I'm shooting 3 inch 4 buck on stand know.

[LeviM]

I have experimented with the 4 buck, 00 buck, and heavy shot, and by far the heavy shot has impressed me. Just because it cost around $3 a shell, isn't going to make my shy away from it. It does its job and it does it well for me, and this is just my opinion. My gun just patterns it better, and it anchors coyotes, I can't ask for anything else

[Roane Ranger]

After a couple of months of looking- No BB loads anywhere to be had.
BUT, there are lots of people out there (across the nation) that have shotmakers.
One fella within 75 miles of me that I know of, but not making BB.
Somebody out there might be making BB, though.
There is a forum on CastBoolits.com for shotgun casters- maybe someone there nearer you guys would be willing to give BB a "shot".
Sorry about the pun.
I guess I'll have to always wonder how the BB loads would have patterned in my shotgun.

[Tango]

Roane Ranger,
are you looking for double 00 buck shot. at basspro.com they have some shells on sale. #00 buck remington is 5.99, 5 rounds of 12 gauge 2 3/4 they also have some others on sale.
hope that helps

[bucksnbears]

hav'nt shot many coyotes with shotgun but have shot piles of fox. used to walk grassy drainage ditches and tree lines as kids if we missed or wounded one we'd get our ass kicked by dad as they were worth good $$ back in the late 70's. lead 4's and bb shot was used. later on started useing copper plated bb's and these worked awesome. 870 2 3/4 in. modified choke. 4 buck workes well also

[Coyotehunter]

I have shot about 150 coyotes in the past season with 12 ga 4 buck lead. this is all you need if you are concerned about price and for god's sake don't use steel.
I have shot it all and if money is not a concern I would use the 3 1/2" #2 hevi-shot. Numbers don't lie.